Audi R4 Rumours Resurface Once Again
Audi R4. A four-wheel-drive mid-engined coupe/ roadster. Heard of it before, seen it in these renderings by WCF in-house rendering artist Larson too. Many thought it died at the same time Porsche took over the building? Well not really...
Fresh rumours suggest the R4 is a go and a quick one at that. The car will use a new platform which will be shared by next-generation Boxster and Cayman, a cost-managing measure to be implemented by new and highly profitable bosses at Porsche. But why not use the current TT platform? Apparently because that baby is on its last generation, to be replaced by another mid-engined something called the R3.
Audi is keen to ride on the R8's current shine, hence all this mid-engine mayhem. The R4 will rest above TT/ R3 in the range and cost around £35,000 when it comes into market in the expected year of 2011. Rear-wheel-biased 60:40 quattro will be fitted and mated to either a 6-speed manual or 7-speed R-Tronic double-clutch gearbox. Engines include a V6, lower-spec 4-cylinder types and the new 335bhp 2.5-litre turbo. Diesel is not out of the question either.
A whole lot of other "R" sports cars are being planned, including an R6 - Jaguar XK/ BMW 6 rival - and R10 which is based on the V12 TDI engine.
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why are you complaining, what? you wanna buy 10 audis? just buy one or not and be quiet.
Its not surprising that Audi's don't sell well in the US though and they do almost everywhere else. Its a land where style, sophistication and culture have become obsolete. Europe is a land which Audi dominates, a land of style, sophistication and culture. Its no surprise that the American public find the most ostentatious brands the most attractive. You can tell there is something wrong when a countries presidential candidates need to transfer their political views into comic book format to compensate for the overwhelming portion of the public who are illiterate (google it, its sad but true).
And just so you know, in China Audi sell more cars than Mercedes and BMW put together. Seeing as China is an emerging market that will soon overtake the US in terms of car sales, this is a strong foothold for the brand. The sale of all cars in the US is already decreasing rapidly because of their economic turmoil, brought about by the gluttonous overspending of its inhabitants.
Here's a list of other countries that Audi do not perform well in, and only sell a fraction of what BMW does: America, Canada, Australia, South Africa, Iceland, Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, New Zealand, Mexico. There are many more countries that BMw outsell audi's but all the above had sales more than double that of Audi.
both brands are simply entry-luxury cash cows, making boring, predictable cars that are meant to make 30 year olds look succesful and 50 year olds look young. they're good cars - great cars, actually - but none of them is made out of passion anymore. and by 'passion' i don't mean the cuore of an italian sports car, but an actual 'persona' - volvo, caddilac and even mercedes, with its old money flair, have more soul than that. not to mention the likes of maserati or bentley, which make REAL premium cars with TANGIBLE personality.
and don't you come out saying a maserati is an expensive fiat, or bentley is an actual volks: despite any cost saving strategies, these are high quality, high end brands with a real image premium for their products. see, DREAMS are what luxury is made of. and that includes not only quality or power, but glamour, tradition, class and, most of all, exclusivity.
now you beemer or audi fans tell me: is there any exclusivity in a world where a nurse goes grocery shopping in an A3 that looks pretty much like your gazillion-dollar A8? not that i see any problems with prestige brands building smaller, more accessible cars, as long as they ALL don't look the same.
after all, exclusivity is not about a number on the trunklid, i guess.
Mercedes Benz reeks of old money true; nobody can take that away from them but what about Audi and BMW's motorsport heritage? The Quattro S1 and Le Mans for Audi and the M1 and probably F1 for BMW. When one is in these cars they expect nothing less than a pleasing performance and these cars hold true to that expectation.
By the way, which country do you live in and how old are you?I feel like I am talking to a 9 year old.
About this R4 it's boring and ugly!, i started to hate there cars because of these boring designs!
Audi's S and RS cars should not be counted as separate models because they are only different versions of the lineup, same as BMW's M or Mercedes' AMG, Black Series, Designo, etc. Different versions, engines, transmissions or equipment levels do not make different cars.
If i remember correctly, it was BMW who decided to launch the 1 Series to compete with the A3, and then Volvo followed with the C30. Also, as soon as Audi launched the R8, BMW came up with the M1 concept. Audi has been offering quattro for years, and that's why BMW offers AWD in their cars.
I don't think it's wrong to launch a new model to compete with your rivals, as long as it's a decent competitor. Audi launched the RS4 with a 420HP V8, and some months later BMW launched the M3 using a V8 engine for the first time, just so they could offer the same 420HP... which car is better? It's not clear yet, but that's what makes the rivalry interesting.
I used to think BMW made really good cars, I believed in all that "character, soul and fun factor" crap but after owning 2 previous generation A4 and then (stupidly) deciding to change for a 3 Series, I now realize Audi is way ahead of BMW when it comes to quality, reliability, comfort, handling and the list goes on and on.
I should have been loyal to Audi and I deeply regret not being so.
I couldnt begin to tell you how many M3's i've flown by at the track in my Quattro, how many M3's i ve beaten at the local autocross. Dont get me wrong, an M3 is a great car, iam not trashing it in any way, iam just saying my Quattro at the track is a great experience. i can come into a controlled slide and simply outgrip any rearwheel drive car, in any condition.
What is going on here, I thought I'm looking at an Audi article and the comments are all about BMW?
Wait, I have to check the topic again...
...I just checked, this actually IS all about Audi and there is no word in the whole article about any BMW or anything related to BMW.
Freude120 gtfo
MY ADVICE...see an AUDI-OLOGIST.
Also I would like you to comment on the 135i, CS concept, coming Z4, M6. You know, all journalists have commented favourably on all those models and I would like to see you bash it down.
Although you constantly attack what we love with all our hearts. we'd love to meet you one day and show you what it is that makes us love BMWs and why we find Audi's disguisting.
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